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Downloaded this map on the comm world named Bugs in SC. Thought it was a hilaeious sight, Kaalus has acknowledged this glitch, but it's still laughable that he wouldn't find a workaround/fix it/prevent it.

Along with the other bugs...
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15 March, 2017 00:07:28

I'm having to remove more and more details from my space station world due to this bug. It's not a glitch - it's an outright bug and it's really getting to me. I see I'm going to have to pay attention to the chunk boundaries to spread out the complexity. SUX!

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15 March, 2017 04:00:08

Exactly, stan. Kaalus just wrote it off as an unfixable bug and carried on without fixing it.

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15 March, 2017 21:24:26

This glitch absolutely sucks when I'm trying to construct a tall building. I can't even completely furnish the building as it gets very bad once a few floors are furnished(and I'm not even talking furniture!)

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16 March, 2017 15:14:27

Ya, I think it's actually got worse. Like you said, even without furniture I seem to be running into it quicker. Oh and pistons may make it worse quicker than furniture, even! Dammit, Kaalus, you designed the game engine - fix this mess! Im getting so disappointed cuz I can't finish any of my best builds. It really makes me want to give up on this game!

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16 March, 2017 17:27:32

I honestly am not having much issues, and the game seems to be random. My other tall building is fully furnished with signs and stuff- no issue. The other one (I named it after Stan), bugged the eff out. I don't think either of them are much different.

Still, general rules are to avoid heights, furniture, and electrics. Which is dumb. Kaalus added features in, then pulled the carpet out. Wahey! Cool stuff, but don't really use it!

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18 March, 2017 15:36:37

Hey! You named the BUGGY one after me? What the? (LOL)

Seriously, this bug is VERY location (chunk) dependant. A single block moved one block over can make a difference. Hitting the bug feels like a mean big brother comes by and smashes the model you've been working on for over a year... Very disheartening!

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18 March, 2017 17:47:30

It might be something he really can't fix.


This happens in Ark Survival Evolved.
A game developed by an entire team and yet...

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And when move the camera just a little bit...

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Looks similar right.


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25 March, 2017 05:36:19

I haven't run into this for years! At the same time, I don't really use furniture often (interiors take too much work...) and I've never seen it on community content. Surprising for my iPad 2.

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25 March, 2017 10:12:06

@stan It didn't glitch out until I started furnishing it, sorry :S

@cursedth Isn't Ark like early dev or something. That looks like something in he early stages of development. I don't see how any graphical issues should remain present in a "completed" game. There HAS to be a workaround or something, otherwise games everywhere would have lots of issues.

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14 April, 2017 10:23:33

Rendering

I think for Kaalus to fix this, he would need to redesign the rendering engine, which is a huge task.  This really dissapointed me a lot as well.  The first thing i designed, was roof tiles, which took quite a bit of time.  To my utter "delight" I now could see the insides of my world.  I think it has to do with the fact that these bitmap type designs are converted to vector graphics and the data becomes too much for the engine to handle. It could be that the integers used just run out of space, since integers are very limited.  But even when using floating points, there are limits.  Even the compilers might have limits to where these floating points can go, 32 bit? 64 bit? 128bit?

For now I hope Kaalus is focussing on proper multiplayer, then I can wait for this bug or rather restriction, to be sorted out.  Technically, adding more and more furniture should only make the game slower, not mess up the graphics.  I do have some mercy for Kaalus, since he is only one guy.  I wish he would get in some help, even one guy would be great.  Maybe one of his children will soon be able to program well and help him.  His son seems to be quite talented.

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14 April, 2017 12:23:38

@johnny To me, I think fixing old issues is much more important than adding more stuff. It's like construction a building. You can' add the fifth floor if the floors below are on the brink of collapse. Fix it up, learn from your mistakes, and build on it. If you keep going without fixing the 30 over bugs we've listed on another post, they may well be amplified, awakened, or even be further rooted by future updates.

It's like walking down a broken bridge. It's already pretty broken, but if you keep walking and stamping on it, it'll break even more until you can't really go back or it'll take a lot of effort.


IMO, he needs to get more people. This started off as a small project but it's expanding far beyond his expectations and ability.

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14 April, 2017 14:26:03

You are right, but to fix this bug is a huge endeavour and because of the limits of the game, it might be too big of a problem.  This is very sad though, since the whole advantage of furniture seems to be lost because of this.  For me though, multiplayer is a make or break feature for the game and seriously needs attention.  We are mostly asking justy for LAN and not WAN, since WAN will be an expensive project.  I am willing to induldge a few bugs if he could bring multiplayer.

But you are right, Kaalus really needs help.

These days I enjoy more making texture and skin packs.  I have done Johan Real HD and the real skins: Real man speedo, Real man Indian etc.

Let me know if any of you would like me to make something specific.  I cannot upload all I have to the CC.

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15 April, 2017 11:41:08

@johnny Put a new thread in skins, put all your skins in that post, and if it's good I'll feature it

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